tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704399.post1898569358522098780..comments2023-10-26T04:53:21.986-05:00Comments on <a href="http://huckupchuck.blogspot.com">The Huck Upchuck</a>: The Warrantless Blogtapping ProgramHuckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15878450464298055466noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704399.post-66416315868730520762009-12-08T16:51:33.398-06:002009-12-08T16:51:33.398-06:00Erin - Did you really read my post closely? I sai...Erin - Did you really read my post closely? I said, first, that there is no concrete evidence one way or the other, short of asking people why they vote one way or approve of one person and whether race matters, to determine that race factors into approval ratings. Then, I said IF one goes down the path of looking at race correlated to approval ratings, IF one tries to make an argument like Hawkins was making in his post trying to link race to approval ratings, then the circumstantial evidence seems to suggest that it's movement among white voters, and not black voters, that appears to be significant in the numbers.<br /><br />In essence, I'm saying that even using Hawkins race-based measures, his analysis is wrong.<br /><br />As to your Bush example. Bush's approval rating among whites in that Gallup Poll you linked to is STILL 4% points HIGHER than his overall national average approval rate at that time, whereas Obama's current Approval Ratings among whites is about 10% BELOW his overall national approval rate. And even if you throw Bill Clinton back into the mix, you discover that his 59% approval among whites in 2001, like Obama's, is BELOW his 65% overall national approval rate for that year. So, you figure that one out. The message still seems pretty clear to me: if you're going to use race as the basis for an analysis here, it's among the white population where the shifts in approval seem to be the most dramatic.<br /><br />The "shallowness" here is in your thinking, not in mine.Huckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15878450464298055466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704399.post-71332586007788556332009-12-08T15:10:03.943-06:002009-12-08T15:10:03.943-06:00I agree that blacks don't have an overwhelming...I agree that blacks don't have an overwhelmingly high approval rating for Obama because he's black (it helps a bit, but it's not the only reason). It's true that blacks ALWAYS have an 85-90% approval rating for Democrats. Fine.<br /><br />The argument you then go on to make about whites basing their approval on race is one of the shollowest I've ever read i my life. You say that because Bill Clinton (a massively popular president during extreme economic prosperity and peace) has a higher approval rating among whites than Obama does that it's about race? Do you realize that you're doing exactly the same thing that the beginning of your post mocks?<br /><br />In 2007, Bush's approval rating among whites was 36 - 3 points lower than Obama's is now. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/102829/congress-approval-rating-20-bushs-approval-32.aspx#2) Does that mean whites are racist against whites? <br /><br />GIMME A BREAK WITH THE RACE CRAP FOLKS!!!Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15387402446770875415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3704399.post-80219975850725839562009-11-21T20:22:08.908-06:002009-11-21T20:22:08.908-06:00Blacks are blue, browns vote red?
At least that&#...Blacks are blue, browns vote red?<br /><br />At least that's how the numbers tend to fall around here.<br /><br />Outside of this, unless you can make a chart and a graph of this information it is useless. Too many holes, and correlation does not equal causation.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17971986598583086801noreply@blogger.com